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I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. How would you compare it against Anavar? For bulking which one would you go with? Is TBol actually as effective as Dbol, but without the water? Strength is not a concern for me, if I bench or makes no difference to me. Anavar seemed to just have more impact on my mood and horomones, it also is quite liver toxic and even with tudca I was way too lethargic.
Just not worth it for me. It's not near as liver toxic as other orals. It affects your kidneys more, did you run cranberry extract with it? It's definitely still hepatoxic, no doubt. It is however the only oral that is metabolized primarily by the kdneys. This isn't actually fully understood I believe. Liver held up well?
Probably never got it checked huh? Lol well your alive so all good. You cannot simply go against the obvious literature that declares Anavar being subjected to a different metabolic route than liver.. Yea, i have looked at full-text literatures through my university network. I cannot find any reference to it being 'liver toxic' or atleast being more than 'insignificantly' metabolised by the liver.
I just thought I'd point out that it's fairly mild on the liver, but hard on the kidneys. Cranberry is for kidney support. Didn't know that thanks for the info if I ever run it again I'll use it. The anavar made me lethargic and my bloodwork showed elevated liver enzymes only on test and var.
It's said to not be very liver toxic but it took a toll on me, maybe it was kidney problems that made me lethargic though who knows. I wasn't aware of the potential kidney problems, should have known more before I ran it oh well live and learn. Var is metabolized by the kidney, it does not mean it's toxic to the kidneys. Anavar is insignificantly metabolised by the liver. It is primarily metabolised by kidneys. It is the only 17aa oral, afaik, that has this metabolic route.
Its a common perceptual experience by users who are subjected to bro-science. You being one of them. Lethargy in the context of anabolic steroids is not indicative or liver or kidney stress. Infact, taking injectable doses of Superdrol, known to be a pretty toxic oral steroid, does not alter ALT levels. But it does cause lethargy, and stomach issues. Hahahahaha please show me when I said var wasn't metabolized by the liver and didn't cause lethargy lol. I'm pretty sure I said the exact opposite of that everyone else was chiming in saying different and I just played into their hand agreeing just cause I don't care enough to argue or explain to them how they are wrong.
Im Well aware of the mechanisms of actions of the drugs I take and well aware of the potential sides, my bros taught me well ; You might want to cruise and take some ai if you get so upset over sarcastic things people say on reddit. I dont see sarcasm? TUDCA is used as a liver aid. And you mentioned lethargy in the same sentence, meaning that its liver toxic, the TUDCA did not help with that, hence the lethargy..
Personally I would never choose dbol over Tbol despite dbol being a bit stronger. The water and moonface you get plus the increased adex you need isn't worth for me. Anavar made me feel like shit tho mood wise, does TBol give you that feel good god like feeling like Dbol? Not to change the subject from Tbol but can you elaborate on the var mood effects?
Var makes me feel good fwiw, maybe a little more forward but not in a bad way. It can slow you down if you take too much at once, don't eat enough, or don't regulate bp. Dbol made me feel kind of dopey happy but the extra water made me feel sluggish overall. Tbol is much cleaner if not as strong. Var is good but it's milder. And more emotional overall. I would get mad about the smallest of things not exactly angry but yes cranky.
Var gives me a very decent mood boost, I wish I could compare it to dbol but I haven't tried it yet. I prefer anavar to dbol for mood, it feels more productive and outgoing. Dbol makes me feel kind of dopey, like I could lift with a smile or take a nap as easily. On anavar I want to push my limits and find myself creating new variations and compound sets.
In my opinion, it has the best ratio of gains to side effects. Great pumps, increased strength, better cardio, slightly better mood, a little more vascularity and of course good gains. It doesn't blow you up like dbol, but it's lean and dry muscle that you keep. No estrogen issues, no noticeable androgenic sides either. I really don't think it needs to be run at a high dose. I started at 10mg ED and felt the effects. Stayed on it for 6 weeks, it's easier on the liver than other orals, and i probably could have done 8 weeks no problem.
When i tried it recently i noticed higher blood pressure. EDIT 11 days later: OH i forgot to add that it made my dick bigger. Seriously, my girlfriend commented and i was like omg it actually does look bigger. Obviously it wasn't much at all and only temporary, definitely not a reason to take it just for that, but it's a nice side effect: I like tbol a lot but my liver is kinda weak and I suspect it doesn't metabolize hormones too well. Idk; I tend to over respond to orals.
Var is sure thing under 50mg.