Anabolic steroids, bodybuilding discussion forums. - SteroidologyPage 1 of 2 1 2 Last Jump to page: Results 1 to 10 of Anabolic steroids help hyperthyroidism? Hello, ive been on and off testosterone in my life, this time when I come off my Anabolic steroids thyroid cancer dumped down to 0. I am now on anti thyroid meds and betablockers to hgh uk muscle it at bay, ive lost a lot of size and back down to stfroids weight prior to supplements, My question is, can anabolic steroids lower thyroid levels, Ive seen a lot that it can lower TBG and T4 levels?? I would anabolic steroids thyroid cancer to get back on HRT as im losing everything Even at low HRT doses will this be a possibility?
The effects of Anabolic Steroids on Thyroid Function
Choose your platform below: Sleepiness, irritability, and foggy-headness are commonly reported by users of some of the more powerful anabolic steroids in large dosages. The cause of this lethargy has been the subject of debate in the performance-enhancement drug community, and the solution may be multifactorial. Published studies have given reason to suspect that thyroid hormone suppression may be one of these factors.
T3 is considered the most active thyroid hormone, and its job is to act as a sort of ter regulator of every major aspect of metabolism- from protein thesis to carbohydrate and fat oxidation. T3 acts in general as a metabolic stimulator, and in addition to its influence on how the uses fuel for energy and tissue building, it also works to generate heat production thermogenesis via enhancement of uncoupling protein 1 UCP-1 expression in the liver.
The production of too much thyroid hormone hyperthyroidism and too little thyroid hormone hypothyroidism are both undesirable conditions.
Hyperthyroidism leads to overstimulation of the nervous system resulting in elevated heart rate and nervousness , as well loss of lean body mass due to protein catabolism. Hypothyroidism; the other hand, leads to depression and fatigue, as well as other symptoms such as joint pain, sensitivity to cold, and fat gain. It appears that this is not due so much to a decrease in the production of the main thyroid hormone T4 in the thyroid gland, however.
What really is the culprit of the suppression is debatable, as different studies have found different things. Two things are clear, though. The levels of total and free active thyroid hormone T3 are decreased with anabolic steroid use, and T4 thyroid hormone-binding globulin levels are markedly elevated.
However, free T4 appears to be unchanged, as does TSH, which is the hormone that your brain produces to stimulate thyroid hormone production in the thyroid gland. So what is happening is not entirely clear. Whatever the case, levels of the active thyroid hormoneT3 can be suppressed by anabolic steroid use- particularly at higher dosages. Such suppression can interfere with maximum muscle growth from a cycle, as optimal protein synthesis activity is dependent upon ideal T3 levels in the body.
It is interesting to note that bodybuilders have discovered by trial and error that thyroid hormone supplementation leads to greater gains during a cycle. I am pretty sure that this anecdotal discovery was made without the knowledge that AAS anabolic-androgenic steroid usage is thyroid suppressive. So this begs the question, what ways, other than t3 could we prevent this? There was a recent article and study about T2 being the most effective thyroid hormone for weight loss, something about not being as catabolic but still affecting the thyroid.
I'll try it find it. I'm definately interested in this since I'm on armour for hypothyroidism and contemplating supplementing ph or anything that actually "works" and won't conflict with a thyroid condition. I added tt33 from iforce to my sdrol cycle and noticed that I have close to no lethargy.
Also, perhaps shbg has something to do with it? And I remember seeing an article on primordials site about how androhard helps rebalance thyroid function?
Originally Posted by jbryandb. Check out Liver XT. Follow SNS on Facebook for more promos! Interesting indeed, I'll have to check out those studies myself, but it is important to note androsterone was injected, not taken orally. And when they say increased oxygen consumption, do the mean breath harder, or increases v02 max?
Bold claims, going to have to look more into it. Are there any indications or examples of this suppression being permanent or lasting after the cessation of the aas?
Or is this a temporary side effect? Thanks for any input, interesting thread. I imagine or hope if you will it is a temporary side effect, but like other functions such as hpta functions, it probably could cause irreversible damage disruption just like shut down is temp, but some people become perm shut down. Its all in Seth Roberts anabolic pharmacology book. Its been out for a little while now, i recommend that if you want to know more you pick up that text, and read up on the AAS you want to use.
I see, thanks for the replies guys. Originally Posted by ssbackwards. T4 appears to be crucial to use due it being a prohormone to T3 and that conversion process needs to be present and not "skipped. Im currently on T3 stacked with hdrol, trenazone, and pstanz. Using the t3 at 50mcgs to help cut a little. I took it after my last SD run and it helped with mood, though was probably catabolic.
Originally Posted by TestEinstein. Here's another blast from the past if you want another example They were supposed to reduce cholesterol and increase thyroid function. But check it out Functions primarily as an antagonist of these receptors, with the exception of the progesterone receptor where it displays partial agonist effects.
Also exerts hypolipidemic activity, likely via antagonism of the receptor for bile acids farnesoid X receptor; FXR. Could also indicate that since its hypolipidemic effect likely comes from blocking the farsenoid X receptor, androgens that cause higher cholesterol likely do so by agonizing that receptor.
So how do we stimulate global thyroid function while on cycle? Negative feedback, as always, is an obstacle here. In this case Imultipronged. An article I found http: Unfortunately the link for the study it cited did not work, but what I dug up regarding b-2 agonists like ephedra and its cAMP stimulation indicated that it doesn't have much effect on thyroid function. If he does cardio to compensate for the extra calories not endo-metabolically compensated for by the thyroid stimulation, his weight will remain roughly static, but he will now have higher thyroid hormone levels.
This is probably why it helps so much to eat more when we start lifting naturally; not only do we have the macronutrients at our disposal, but with higher thyroid function some of the anabolic reactions necessary to promote growth will be accelerated as well.
See the last paragraph in the above article. I believe there is probably a body fat percentage that is correlated to optimal thyroid hormone output.
Higher fat levels increase estrogen levels, which increases thyroxine-binding globulin TBG , which may be why it is harder to lose fat on highly aromatizing agents, or agents that aromatize to potent, long-half-life estrogen a-methyl-estradiol, for example. This however may be related directly to androgen-enhancing affects of zinc which begs the question It may be that zinc stimulates TSH independant of sex hormones, or more likely in my opinion, it is the supraphysiological estrogen levels generated by AAS use, and the concurrent TBG increase, that are the most obvious culprit.
You can run around and around the diagrams but it sill seems to lead there. Certainly creates an argument for use of AI's on cycle to keep estrogen levels in check for thyroid sake, though inhibiting aromatase too strongly will have separate, deleterious consequences. Originally Posted by MattPorter.
Originally Posted by jamesm Probably help with the lethargy, I'm noticing it's kept my mood and energy from crashing like most of my other cycles. I'd expect the same with SD, and it'd probably have some aesthetic benefits. As for M1T never gonna try it but I'd assume the same. That's what I'm talking about, thank you, wonder how it would do with sd, or better yet, m1t at that dosage Log in Forgotten Your Password?
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